• Linssid doesn't work

    From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Feb 10 11:08:17 2021
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    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No wifi's. When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of networks.
    What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of
    Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.

    Fokke
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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Feb 10 09:49:29 2021
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    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No wifi's. When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of networks. What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of
    Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.


    Did you get the prompt for your password? Must run with admin permissions.

    Try launching from terminal and see error messages...

    sudo linssid


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Feb 10 18:19:30 2021
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    On 10/02/2021 15:49, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No wifi's. >> When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of networks.
    What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of
    Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.


    Did you get the prompt for your password?

    Yes. The program opens. I start the scan but nothing further happens. It starts scanning indeed but there are no networks.

    Must run with admin permissions.

    How do I do that? Isn't the password enough?


    Try launching from terminal and see error messages...

    sudo linssid


    I will do that. Thanks.

    Fokke

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Feb 10 14:02:55 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 10/02/2021 15:49, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No
    wifi's.
    When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of
    networks.
    What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of
    Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.


    Did you get the prompt for your password?

    Yes. The program opens. I start the scan but nothing further happens. It starts scanning indeed but there are no networks.

    Must run with admin permissions.

    How do I do that? Isn't the password enough?

    If you are an administrative account, i.e., in the adm and sudo groups,
    then if the application prompts with the password then your password
    will elevate privileges.



    Try launching from terminal and see error messages...

    sudo linssid


    I will do that. Thanks.

    Fokke



    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 11:48:59 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 10/02/2021 20:02, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 10/02/2021 15:49, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No
    wifi's.
    When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of
    networks.
    What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of
    Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1. >>>> After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.


    Did you get the prompt for your password?

    Yes. The program opens. I start the scan but nothing further happens. It
    starts scanning indeed but there are no networks.

    Must run with admin permissions.

    How do I do that? Isn't the password enough?

    If you are an administrative account, i.e., in the adm and sudo groups,
    then if the application prompts with the password then your password
    will elevate privileges.



    Try launching from terminal and see error messages...

    sudo linssid


    I will do that. Thanks.

    Fokke




    Hi,

    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password
    and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning, it
    did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    What to do next?

    Fokke
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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 09:29:51 2021
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    Fokke Nauta wrote:


    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password
    and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning, it
    did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    What to do next?


    Well to ask the obvious, do you have the wifi adapter device selected
    for the interface (first highlighted)? Then click button to start scan
    (second highlight)?

    <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/linssid>



    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 15:40:04 2021
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    On 11/02/2021 15:29, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:


    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password
    and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning, it
    did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    What to do next?


    Well to ask the obvious, do you have the wifi adapter device selected
    for the interface (first highlighted)?

    Yes, indeed.

    Then click button to start scan
    (second highlight)?

    Yes, the scan starts and is running, but nothing shows up. No networks.

    <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/linssid>


    Thanks, I recognize this. Exactly the same as my screen of Linssid, but
    it looks like there are no networks. Nothing shows up.

    Fokke

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 10:01:38 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 11/02/2021 15:29, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:


    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password
    and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning, it >>> did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    What to do next?


    Well to ask the obvious, do you have the wifi adapter device selected
    for the interface (first highlighted)? 

    Yes, indeed.

    Then click button to start scan
    (second highlight)?

    Yes, the scan starts and is running, but nothing shows up. No networks.

    <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/linssid>


    Thanks, I recognize this. Exactly the same as my screen of Linssid, but
    it looks like there are no networks. Nothing shows up.

    On the right frequency 2.4 v 5 GHz? Otherwise not sure what the issue is.


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 19:36:35 2021
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    On 11/02/2021 16:01, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 11/02/2021 15:29, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:


    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password >>>> and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning, it >>>> did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    What to do next?


    Well to ask the obvious, do you have the wifi adapter device selected
    for the interface (first highlighted)?

    Yes, indeed.

    Then click button to start scan
    (second highlight)?

    Yes, the scan starts and is running, but nothing shows up. No networks.

    <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/linssid>


    Thanks, I recognize this. Exactly the same as my screen of Linssid, but
    it looks like there are no networks. Nothing shows up.

    On the right frequency 2.4 v 5 GHz? Otherwise not sure what the issue is.



    No, it's in the lower area, left in the tabs.
    Please see my screenshot.
    The application seems to work but does not see any networks.
    My screenshot: https://www.solfon.nl/usenet/11-02-2021%2019-28-20.jpg

    Fokke

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 14:28:39 2021
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    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 11/02/2021 16:01, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 11/02/2021 15:29, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:


    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password >>>>> and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started
    scanning, it
    did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    What to do next?


    Well to ask the obvious, do you have the wifi adapter device selected
    for the interface (first highlighted)?

    Yes, indeed.

    Then click button to start scan
    (second highlight)?

    Yes, the scan starts and is running, but nothing shows up. No networks.

    <http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/linssid>


    Thanks, I recognize this. Exactly the same as my screen of Linssid, but
    it looks like there are no networks. Nothing shows up.

    On the right frequency 2.4 v 5 GHz? Otherwise not sure what the issue is.



    No, it's in the lower area, left in the tabs.
    Please see my screenshot.
    The application seems to work but does not see any networks.
    My screenshot: https://www.solfon.nl/usenet/11-02-2021%2019-28-20.jpg


    No idea. If no blocks on your device, not sure where to look.

    rfkill list


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 15:04:33 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password
    and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning, it
    did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    I think linssid is supposed to report even w/ normal user.

    It is a graphical front end for iwlist, so maybe if iwlist can't get the
    info, linssid can't either.

    You could run the iwlist scan command; I'm not familiar w/ how to set up
    the options on iwlist. Check iwlist --help.

    Also, I would make sure that your wifi has the correct driver w/ inxi
    -n. That will also let us see just what your wifi is.

    According to my info, Zorin doesn't have inxi by default, but maybe you
    used your laptop's ethernet to get the linssid installed.

    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 15:29:00 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu


    Mike Easter wrote:
    You could run the iwlist scan command; I'm not familiar w/ how to set up
    the options on iwlist.  Check iwlist --help.

    If I run iwlist wlan0 scan when I'm connected, it only shows me the one
    it is connected to; but if I disconnect, then iwlist wlan0 scan shows me
    the available 'cells'.

    I booted a MX 19.2 which has iwlist by default.

    Then I used MX's synaptic to see if there was a linssid in the default
    repo/s which there was so I installed it.

    Running it from the menu required using elevated privileges.

    The default screen is empty, but it hasn't scanned yet. Then I clicked
    the scan icon and got graphical results of the local SSIDs.

    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 16:02:07 2021
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    Mike Easter wrote:

    If I run iwlist wlan0 scan when I'm connected, it only shows me the one
    it is connected to; but if I disconnect, then iwlist wlan0 scan shows me
    the available 'cells'.

    I booted a MX 19.2 which has iwlist by default.

    Then I used MX's synaptic to see if there was a linssid in the default repo/s which there was so I installed it.

    Running it from the menu required using elevated privileges.

    The default screen is empty, but it hasn't scanned yet.  Then I clicked
    the scan icon and got graphical results of the local SSIDs.

    That msg has a faulty tz stamp. Also, the linssid installed is the
    'current' 3.6 of 2018.

    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 16:55:16 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No wifi's.

    I wrote Zorin 12.4 core to USB and booted it live on a laptop w/ wifi
    and ethernet. I expected the Ub-based Zorin to fail to use the correct
    wl driver for its Broadcom wifi because Ub doesn't, but Zorin showed the correct wl driver but the default wifi is dormant because it favored the ethernet.

    I installed inxi and synaptic because I don't like the default software manager. Synaptic showed linssid 2.7-3 in the default universe repo.
    It had less dependencies than did the linssid which I installed in MX.

    I scanned w/ the linssid in Zorin and it correctly showed the various
    SSIDs in the area.

    I used zorin 12.4 because I already had that .iso stored from earlier
    dl. Zorin 12.4 core is based on kernel 4.15 and Ub Xenial 16.04. Your alleged Zorin 14 doesn't show up in DW's Zorin page; the newest is 15.3
    and the one before that is 12.4. The 15 series started in 2019 and is
    based on Ub 18.04 LTS.

    Since I don't have a current Zorin .iso, I'll get one.

    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 19:54:35 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Mike Easter wrote:
    Since I don't have a current Zorin .iso, I'll get one.

    Well; that was an educational experience. I've been there before; but
    this time it was different.

    The problem is that Zorin 15.3 is based on Ub 18.04 which doesn't
    properly recognize my Broadcom wifi which needs the proprietary bcmwl
    module. I had some trouble getting that bcmwl installed, as the error
    msg named a missing dependency, but that was just due to ME failing to properly update.

    In any case; I finally got the proper driver installed for my wifi which
    of course is necessary to get anything going using the wifi hardware.
    It is not necessary to be *CONNECTED* by wifi instead of ethernet, just
    to have the proper driver. In fact, the linssid help says that it is
    *faster* if the wifi is NOT connected. The wifi can be dormant in favor
    of the ethernet which is default if both are present.

    The default linssid in the default zorin 15.3 repo/s is 2.9, but the
    .ppa system has 3.6 for bionic 18.04 which is zorin 15.3; so I added the
    .ppa to get 3.6 and installed it.

    Running linssid from the menu and then using its scan icon I got my
    local SSIDs displayed.

    I like this linssid; it is like some graphical tools I have used in the
    past w/ Win. Synaptic describes it as similar to inssider for Win; the
    ones I have used are Vistumbler for vista off netstumbler which is like inssider.

    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Feb 11 20:02:00 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Mike Easter wrote:
    The problem is that Zorin 15.3 is based on Ub 18.04 which doesn't
    properly recognize my Broadcom wifi which needs the proprietary bcmwl module.

    The useful preparatory steps for me after booting Zorin 15.3 were to use
    apt to install inxi to look at my wifi and drivers, synaptic because it
    is the best way to deal w/ packages instead of that other thing, and
    then inxi tells me I don't have a good broadcom driver and then I use
    synaptic to get the broadcom kernel source package and later use the
    command line to install the linssid .ppa repo and linssid. Oh, yeah;
    there was also a dpkg-reconfigure step in there; sudo dpkg-reconfigure bcmwl-kernel-source

    There were some bobbles along the way that were my fault that I tried to
    blame on a missing dependency. Silly boy.

    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 09:45:16 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/02/2021 00:04, Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    I opened a terminal and typed "sudo linssid". It asked for my password
    and after entering that, Linssid started up. Whet I started scanning,
    it did not see anything. After closing Linssid I did not see any error
    codes or whatever in the terminal.

    I think linssid is supposed to report even w/ normal user.

    It is a graphical front end for iwlist, so maybe if iwlist can't get the info, linssid can't either.

    You could run the iwlist scan command; I'm not familiar w/ how to set up
    the options on iwlist.  Check iwlist --help.

    Also, I would make sure that your wifi has the correct driver w/ inxi
    -n.  That will also let us see just what your wifi is.

    According to my info, Zorin doesn't have inxi by default, but maybe you
    used your laptop's ethernet to get the linssid installed.


    I downloaded Linssid via the wifi.
    I don't use an ethernet cable for the laptop.

    Fokke
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 09:45:50 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/02/2021 01:02, Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:

    If I run iwlist wlan0 scan when I'm connected, it only shows me the
    one it is connected to; but if I disconnect, then iwlist wlan0 scan
    shows me the available 'cells'.

    I booted a MX 19.2 which has iwlist by default.

    Then I used MX's synaptic to see if there was a linssid in the default
    repo/s which there was so I installed it.

    Running it from the menu required using elevated privileges.

    The default screen is empty, but it hasn't scanned yet.  Then I
    clicked the scan icon and got graphical results of the local SSIDs.

    That msg has a faulty tz stamp.  Also, the linssid installed is the 'current' 3.6 of 2018.


    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    Fokke
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 02:06:02 2021
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    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    For Zorin, I added the .ppa.

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wseverin/ppa
    sudo apt-get update

    https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    In the case of MX, 3.6 was in its repo/s.


    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 09:02:13 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Mike Easter wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Since I don't have a current Zorin .iso, I'll get one.

    Well; that was an educational experience.  I've been there before; but
    this time it was different.

    The problem is that Zorin 15.3 is based on Ub 18.04 which doesn't
    properly recognize my Broadcom wifi which needs the proprietary bcmwl module.  I had some trouble getting that bcmwl installed, as the error
    msg named a missing dependency, but that was just due to ME failing to properly update.


    I had a similar issue with my server upgrade from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04
    with a Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    Controller; the r8169 - r8168 module issue. Errors noted in dmesg and
    syslog. Had to go to Realtek website and download driver source and
    compile to fix. Maybe OP has a similar issue with Broadcom



    In any case; I finally got the proper driver installed for my wifi which
    of course is necessary to get anything going using the wifi hardware. It
    is not necessary to be *CONNECTED* by wifi instead of ethernet, just to
    have the proper driver.  In fact, the linssid help says that it is
    *faster* if the wifi is NOT connected.  The wifi can be dormant in favor
    of the ethernet which is default if both are present.

    The default linssid in the default zorin 15.3 repo/s is 2.9, but the
    .ppa system has 3.6 for bionic 18.04 which is zorin 15.3; so I added the
    .ppa to get 3.6 and installed it.

    Running linssid from the menu and then using its scan icon I got my
    local SSIDs displayed.

    I like this linssid; it is like some graphical tools I have used in the
    past w/ Win.  Synaptic describes it as similar to inssider for Win; the
    ones I have used are Vistumbler for vista off netstumbler which is like inssider.



    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 17:38:04 2021
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    On 12/02/2021 01:55, Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No
    wifi's.

    I wrote Zorin 12.4 core to USB and booted it live on a laptop w/ wifi
    and ethernet.  I expected the Ub-based Zorin to fail to use the correct
    wl driver for its Broadcom wifi because Ub doesn't, but Zorin showed the correct wl driver but the default wifi is dormant because it favored the ethernet.

    I installed inxi and synaptic because I don't like the default software manager.  Synaptic showed linssid 2.7-3 in the default universe repo. It had less dependencies than did the linssid which I installed in MX.

    I scanned w/ the linssid in Zorin and it correctly showed the various
    SSIDs in the area.

    I used zorin 12.4 because I already had that .iso stored from earlier
    dl.  Zorin 12.4 core is based on kernel 4.15 and Ub Xenial 16.04.   Your alleged Zorin 14 doesn't show up in DW's Zorin page; the newest is 15.3
    and the one before that is 12.4.  The 15 series started in 2019 and is based on Ub 18.04 LTS.

    Since I don't have a current Zorin .iso, I'll get one.


    If you want a Zorin ISO, send me a mail and I will return a download link.
    I have version 12.4, 15 and 15.2.

    I made a mistake. I said I have version 14 installed, but it is 12.4.

    My mail address: fnauta@solfon.nl

    Fokke
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 17:38:57 2021
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    On 12/02/2021 11:06, Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    For Zorin, I added the .ppa.

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wseverin/ppa
    sudo apt-get update

    https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    In the case of MX, 3.6 was in its repo/s.



    Thanks.
    I will do this tomorrow and will come back on this.

    Fokke
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 10:03:13 2021
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    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    If you want a Zorin ISO, send me a mail and I will return a download link.
    I have version 12.4, 15 and 15.2.

    Thanks for the offer, but I was able to get 15.3 using the torrent I
    found using fosstorrents. DW also has torrent archive. I got the Lite
    v. instead of Core because Lite is xfce while core is gnome and I don't
    like gnome as much, mostly because I find it 'bloated' and using more resources than it needs, while its old adversary kde is still lean and mean.

    The Zorin site's dl function for its iso/s is borken (gives error). I
    got my hash from the Zorin dl site. I couldn't find a Zorin sig key,
    but I didn't hunt very hard; in the past I never checked sig/s, but now
    that I have a 'system' for doing it, I do it pretty regularly.

    I made a mistake. I said I have version 14 installed, but it is 12.4.

    Ah, so.


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    Mike Easter
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 19:23:07 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 10/02/2021 11:08, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No wifi's. When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of networks. What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.

    Fokke

    Correction!
    My mistake.
    I mentioned I use Zorin 14, that's what I thought. But it's Zorin 12.4,
    and then the ultimate version.

    Sorry!

    Fokke
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 10:35:48 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Mike Easter wrote:
    I couldn't find a Zorin sig key, but I didn't hunt very hard; in the
    past I never checked sig/s, but now that I have a 'system' for doing it,
    I do it pretty regularly.

    Clarification; I was able to find a/the Zorin pub key/s, but I wasn't
    able to find a signature of the .iso or a sig of the hash. I prefer for
    a distro to sign the .iso's hash as opposed to the .iso because it authenticates quicker.

    Also, the dev can put all of the hashes together in one file for a
    release and then sign that, for efficiency.

    Presumably some security-oriented person might have the opinion that
    that 'isn't the same' as signing each .iso individually, but I would
    argue that compared to NO authentication whatsoever, signing a hash
    collection is way ahead of nothing.

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  • From bilou@bilou@sfr.fr to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 02:38:00 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 10/02/2021 11:08, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No wifi's. When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of networks. What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.

    Fokke
    As a consolation :-)
    Here it works but it is a bit deaf and anyway much less
    useful than any similar application on a mobile phone.
    I have yet to find an application that not only shows the
    access points but the real occupation of the channels.
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 18:28:20 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    bilou wrote:
    I have yet to find an application that not only shows the
    access points but the real occupation of the channels.

    The pay Win-ware Inssider 5 plus compatible hardware can tell you not
    only the occupation of the channels but also measure interference.

    https://support.metageek.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036370214--MetaGeek-Plus-inSSIDer-5-and-live-Client-Traffic-Analytics-video-
    MetaGeek Plus, inSSIDer 5, and live Client Traffic Analytics (video)
    Print Friendly and PDF

    The vid shows the hardware used to evaluate interference which is not described in the text in the article above. Generally I don't like to
    watch or recommend vid/s unless there is something I can't find elsewhere.

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    Mike Easter
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss@mouse-potato.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 18:41:22 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 2/12/21 6:28 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
    bilou wrote:
    I have yet to find an application that not only shows the
    access points but the real occupation of the channels.

    The pay Win-ware Inssider 5 plus compatible hardware can tell you not
    only the occupation of the channels but also measure interference.

    https://support.metageek.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036370214--MetaGeek-Plus-inSSIDer-5-and-live-Client-Traffic-Analytics-video-
     MetaGeek Plus, inSSIDer 5, and live Client Traffic Analytics (video) Print Friendly and PDF

    The vid shows the hardware used to evaluate interference which is not described in the text in the article above.  Generally I don't like to watch or recommend vid/s unless there is something I can't find elsewhere.


    I share that video phobia. Text is faster to read and faster to implement. Having phone problem and did a lot of that today.

    bliss

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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Fri Feb 12 23:13:45 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 10/02/2021 11:08, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    Running ZorinOS 14 on an old laptop. Zorin is based on Ubuntu. I
    installed Linssid, but when I use it, it does not find anything. No
    wifi's.
    When I open a terminal and type "nmcli dev wifi" I see a lot of networks.
    What can I do to make Linssid work?
    Another weird thing: On the site I noticed that the latest version of
    Linssid is 3.6-6. When I downloaded it, it turned to be version 2.9-1.
    After installation it showed version 2.7. This is weird, isn't it?

    Beforehand thanks for your replies.

    Fokke

    Correction!
    My mistake.
    I mentioned I use Zorin 14, that's what I thought. But it's Zorin 12.4,
    and then the ultimate version.

    Sorry!


    Just to cover all the bases, you do have WiFi enabled in network
    manager, right?

    Just upgraded wife's system to Ubuntu Unity 20.04 and noted that with
    WiFi disabled in network manager (use Ethernet for that system) that
    linssid shows the interface, but will not show networks until WiFi
    enabled...


    rfkill list


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 11:10:21 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/02/2021 11:06, Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    For Zorin, I added the .ppa.

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wseverin/ppa
    sudo apt-get update

    I entered the above commands in a terminal.
    It worked. No errors.

    https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    What to do with this site? Wasn't able to download anything. Read instructions, but they did not help me any further.

    In the case of MX, 3.6 was in its repo/s.


    Fokke

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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 02:50:25 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    For Zorin, I added the .ppa.

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wseverin/ppa
    sudo apt-get update

    I entered the above commands in a terminal.
    It worked. No errors.

    https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    What to do with this site? Wasn't able to download anything. Read instructions, but they did not help me any further.

    After you add the .ppa, then the 3.6 v. is in your repositories; so you
    can install the program using your favorite package manager such as
    synaptic or apt.

    I don't know if using the 3.6 linssid is going to solve your problem,
    because when I used the older 2.7 v. w/ my earlier Zorin 12.4, it worked
    just fine. That is, you may have some problem other than linssid v.


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    Mike Easter
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 03:00:39 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Mike Easter wrote:
    After you add the .ppa, then the 3.6 v. is in your repositories; so you
    can install the program using your favorite package manager such as
    synaptic or apt.

    This is the readme from 3.6 which covers some issues (confusion on my
    part) which arose earlier about whether or not one needs elevated
    privileges or not.


    ©2012-2018 Warren Severin wseverin@warsev.com
    This program is released under the terms of the GNU Public License (version 3).

    Version 3.6

    * Attempts to resolve 802.11s mesh network nodes to their master. If
    otherwise not reported, marks SSID field of mesh node APs as
    "<mesh-masterSSID>".

    Version 3.5

    * New vendor database and search scheme that now looks in ieee oui large,
    medium, and small block databases. Previously only looked in large
    block database because that's where 98% of all devices are found.
    * Displays SSID of attach points with no SSID as "<hidden>".

    Version 3.4
    * Fixes location and owner of ".linssid.prefs" and "LinSSID.datalog".
    Instead of placed in /root and owned by root they are now placed
    in "$HOME" and owned by "$USER" when launched with linssid-pkexec which
    is the normal .desktop launch.
    * Fixed some wrongly addressed cosmetic icons.
    * Updated vendor data file. (Version 3.3 had some trailing characters that
    messed up data logging.)
    * Sundry under-the-hood optimizations.

    Version 3.3
    * Adds selection of table font size in preferences dialog.

    Version 3.2
    * Now shows mark for control channel on the channel plots. Very useful
    for making sure your control channel(s) don't overlap with the neighbors'. * Fixes potential memory leak with attached plots.

    Version 3.1
    * Big change - now requires polkit (policykit) authentication. No way
    around this as debian/ubuntu/* has emasculated su and sudo.
    A step backward IMHO. Now the whole app must run as root. So, all
    of the prefs and log files are now in /root and are owned by root. And,
    the whole app must run as root instead of just well-tested system parts.
    * Major rewrite of the synchronization between the main window and the data getter.
    * Install rewrite
    * Desktop file fix
    * Updated vendor database

    Version 3.0
    * Fix race condition with large number of SSID
    * Updated vendor database

    Version 2.9
    * Use distro-supplied version of qwt shared library.

    Version 2.8
    * Conversion from old linux wireless tools to nl80211 tools.
    * New information displayed - bandwidth, make and model of router (when available)
    * Updated vendor database

    Version 2.7
    * Hopefully fixes an occassional problem in some configurations where LinSSID hangs during
    scan when the wifi interface is connected to an attach point
    * Updated vendor database

    Version 2.6:
    * Fixes a possible bug in interface detection
    * Static link to libboost-regex
    * Update vendor database

    Version 2.5:
    * Fixes an issue with how the zsh shell interprets command lines. Huge thanks to Alex Stelmachonak.

    Version 2.4:
    * Same as 2.3 code but necessary to get a i386 build through Canonical. Long story.

    Version 2.3:
    * Fixed issue with RTL8187SE card and driver not providing frequency resulting in LinSSID crash.
    * Renamed the column that displays WEP, WPA2, etc., to "Privacy".
    * Added column for protocol {a,b,g,n}. (Note that many drivers do not report protocol.)
    * Modified data logging format to reflect as above
    * Added buttons for immediate clear or set of plotting of all visible attach points
    * Improved response to Plot column check boxes
    * Cleaned up a few minor bugs
    * Updated vendor database

    Version 2.2:
    * Fixes several small bugs
    * Adds a status display line to top panel
    * Now built with QT5 and Qwt 6.1
    * Updated wifi vendor database

    Version 2.1:
    * Fixes issue with not finding some interfaces when they are 'up'
    but not connected to an attach point.
    * Updated wifi vendor database

    Version 2.0:
    * Hopefully fixes the problem with not finding some wireless interfaces.

    Version 1.9:
    * Added data logging to "~/LinSSID.datalog"
    * Anti-aliased plots
    * Updated wifi vendor database

    Version 1.8a:
    * Minor ooopps fix in password handling

    Version 1.8:
    * Stability improvement build
    * - Improved odd character handling in password verification
    * - Improved handling of default values on initial install or upgrade
    * - Improved wireless port discovery

    Version 1.7:
    * Adds horizontal grid to plots
    * Adds a Preferences menu item under the File menu.
    * - Adjust plot scale
    * - Toggle grid lines on/off

    Version 1.6:
    * Attempts to fix frequent crashing with some wifi drivers. Also some cosmetic changes.
    * - Fixes problem of some drivers reporting attach points (based on MAC address) more than once per scan. (Go figure...)
    * - Fixes code problem handling recalcitrant drivers that don't want to do a scan when requested to do so.
    * Centers most text alignment in cells

    Version 1.5:
    * Saves window layout between sessions. Keeps ".linssid.prefs" in home folder. If things go haywire delete the prefs file.

    Version 1.4:
    * Imposes minimum 0.5 second "nap time" between scans so that poorly written drivers crash less.
    * Updates the UOI vendor database
    * Improves concurrency of wifi scanning and main form updating.

    The wireless tools that LinSSID uses require root privilege to access. If your machine has sudo, the best way to run is to launch the program and let it ask you for a password. That way it will only use root privilege to execute a few privileged system commands, but LinSSID itself will not run as a root process. The other way to run LinSSID is to launch it from a root account or with su or sudo. It will run, but in my opinion that's a bit more dangerous. One never knows what nasty bugs may be waiting to damage.

    Please report bugs on the discussion tab at the project web page: https://sourceforge.net/projects/linssid/



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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 12:15:31 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 13/02/2021 11:50, Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    For Zorin, I added the .ppa.

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wseverin/ppa
    sudo apt-get update

    I entered the above commands in a terminal.
    It worked. No errors.

    https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    What to do with this site? Wasn't able to download anything. Read
    instructions, but they did not help me any further.

    After you add the .ppa,

    Is the .ppa added by the two command lines in the terminal?

    then the 3.6 v. is in your repositories; so you
    can install the program using your favorite package manager such as
    synaptic or apt.

    How would I do that? Can you give me an example?

    I don't know if using the 3.6 linssid is going to solve your problem, because when I used the older 2.7 v. w/ my earlier Zorin 12.4, it worked just fine.  That is, you may have some problem other than linssid v.

    You may be right, but at least I can try. Perhaps it works, perhaps not.

    Fokke

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  • From Andrei Z.@no-email@invalid.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 15:45:34 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Mike Easter wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Where did you get this 3.6 version from?

    For Zorin, I added the .ppa.

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wseverin/ppa
    sudo apt-get update

    I entered the above commands in a terminal.
    It worked. No errors.

    https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    What to do with this site? Wasn't able to download anything. Read
    instructions, but they did not help me any further.

    After you add the .ppa, then the 3.6 v. is in your repositories; so you
    can install the program using your favorite package manager such as
    synaptic or apt.

    I don't know if using the 3.6 linssid is going to solve your problem, because when I used the older 2.7 v. w/ my earlier Zorin 12.4, it worked just fine.  That is, you may have some problem other than linssid v.


    OP wrote: "it's Zorin 12.4"

    "Zorin OS 12 is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS" Xenial https://blog.zorin.com/2016/11/18/zorin-os-12-core-and-ultimate-are-here-our-biggest-release-ever-2/

    ppa:wseverin/ppa
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sat Feb 13 09:13:44 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Andrei Z. wrote:
    OP wrote: "it's Zorin 12.4"

    "Zorin OS 12 is based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS" Xenial https://blog.zorin.com/2016/11/18/zorin-os-12-core-and-ultimate-are-here-our-biggest-release-ever-2/


    ppa:wseverin/ppa
    Xenial: linssid Version 2.9-1 https://launchpad.net/~wseverin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial

    Oh, yeah. That is why I used 2.9 when I was trying Zorin 12 before I
    dl/ed Z15.

    I think if I were the OP, I would be booting 'something else' live to
    see if it would work -- if installing linssid would work on the live.
    The something else would depend on his taste; it could even be the .iso
    he used to install the Zorin 12.4 + linssid 2.9.

    If he wanted to try linssid 3.6, he could use MX 19.2, live which is
    what I used first or he could dl the Zorin 15.3 and boot it live.

    That way he could 'evade' whatever funky might possibly be going on in
    the install.

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  • From bilou@bilou@sfr.fr to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Sun Feb 14 16:51:15 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 13/02/2021 03:28, Mike Easter wrote:

    The pay Win-ware Inssider 5 plus compatible hardware can tell you not
    only the occupation of the channels but also measure interference.

    https://support.metageek.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036370214--MetaGeek-Plus-inSSIDer-5-and-live-Client-Traffic-Analytics-video-
     MetaGeek Plus, inSSIDer 5, and live Client Traffic Analytics (video) Print Friendly and PDF

    The vid shows the hardware used to evaluate interference which is not described in the text in the article above.  Generally I don't like to watch or recommend vid/s unless there is something I can't find elsewhere.

    Thanks for the link.
    Being commercial they forgot the main thing :
    Don't use WIFI if anything else is available !
    :-)
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