• Snit *The Despicable, lying, troll*

    From Gremlin@nobody@haph.org to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Mon Apr 26 19:58:23 2021
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Snit (Michael Glasser - Prescott Arizona Presscott Computer Guy) *The Despicable, lying, troll*

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=159159190100
    Diesel made it clear he had access not just to the output of the bot
    but to the code itself. When called out on this he clarified it was
    merely the compiled code he had:

    <XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
    -----
    Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
    provided the original source code that was
    compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
    given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
    still tells you *everything* about the program.
    -----

    So how did Diesel get a copy of the program, compiled or not? My
    guess: he will NEVER say.

    ***

    Now, here's where that snippit you cherry picked actually came from, in
    full fucking context. It does *NOT* support the false accusation you made against me, and I was *VERY CLEAR IN WRITING THAT I DID NOT HAVE THE
    FLOODBOT IN THE SAME FUCKING REPLY YOU LIFTED THAT FROM!* Infact, that statement is made very clear to you in the first three lines of the
    section of our exchange which is relevant to what you've been writing, and cherry picking, completely out of context. You *knowingly* have been
    falsely accusing me of having that bot, and you've been trying to pass of
    a revised version of your story claiming you spoke of my having the bot.
    No snit, you've been *lying* about my having the bot, from the start!

    From: Diesel <nobody@haph.org>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
    Subject: Re: Bot droppings
    Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:40:47 -0000 (UTC)
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    Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
    news:hbjcp6F4eckU1@mid.individual.net Tue, 25 Feb 2020 01:49:26 GMT
    in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
    The only thing we know of the code is the bit Carroll has shown,
    and he denies that is even tied to the bot. Without knowing the
    reasoning for the text it could just as easily be lorem ipsum.

    Who's we exactly here? I didn't claim I had any access to the
    floodbots code. You're putting words in my mouth and making
    assumptions about what you think I wrote, or meant.

    I will grant that it seems like an obvious "next step" to have the
    bot break apart sentences and respond to keywords, but that is
    more my thing that Carroll's (I do it with my chat bot). So if I
    were to make such a bot, yes, I would want it to do that... but
    does Carroll even want it to? I think the main purpose is Google
    seeding... and it does that well.

    Christ, keyword hits aren't original by either of you. It's been done
    and done and done to death. I had an eliza bot on my first computer,
    and it was very limited compared to what anyone uses today.

    Nothing I've seen shown by either of you is original, or difficult to
    produce. It's all stuff I've seen before, some going back decades
    that's 'new' to the two of you, very old stuff to myself and many of
    the others here.

    Without knowing more of the purpose we cannot say if the output
    shows the code to be good or not. One has to see the code to know
    that.

    How long have you been writing code of any kind? The resulting output
    (most programmers, and all coders know this) certainly does give an
    individual a very good idea of the coding behind it. Ie: how it's
    being generated, what algorithms are likely in use.

    One doesn't have to see original source code to be able to determine
    what the program most likely is, if the programs output can be
    sampled.

    Do you think when you disassemble something that you're provided the
    original source code that was compiled/assembled by the author? You
    aren't, what you're given looks nothing like the original source
    code, but it still tells you *everything* about the program.

    *** end share, in full context!

    I want to see the post(s) where I "made it quite clear" that I had
    access to more than just the posts the bots been making (the output -
    atleast what's available to an end user; admin may provide more
    information). I want to see the post(s) where I was "called out", and
    finally, I want to see the post(s) where I clarified I had the
    "compiled code".

    My reply is clearly fucking telling you that I did not at any point in
    time ever have the floodbot. You have knowingly, been lying your fucking
    ass off claiming otherwise, this entire time. This is not a disagreement between us, this is a case of you writing a hell of a whopper about me and still trying to claim it's true, when we *all fucking know it isn't and
    never was*.

    Those are three, seperate and distinct lies in a very short paragraph.
    What you quoted me out of context! doesn't even come close to supporting
    your accusation. And, it IS an accusation. And then we have the issue of
    the question you asked at the end. That question makes the assumption that
    what you wrote previous to it is factual - The question is intended to
    give credence to what's written previous to it, to give it credibility. To assist in your effort to mislead. Which is incidently, a form of
    manipulation, Snit.

    You're a despicable, lying, troll, Snit Michael Glasser And this post,
    along with thousands of others during your usenet trolling career PROVES
    IT.

    From: Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
    Subject: Re: Ha! Ads be gone!
    Date: 18 Aug 2020 17:06:20 GMT
    Message-ID: <hq2g4cFrde3U9@mid.individual.net>

    On Aug 18, 2020 at 8:49:01 AM MST, "Gremlin" <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
    David has asked you to check it against phone book urls he shared
    with you.

    This is a direct lie from you. He did no such thing.

    *** end copy

    Remember what I wrote about six days above? Here's my proof of that, too:

    From: David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
    Message-ID: <9KMYG.136546$hs5.63426@fx05.ams1>
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@blocknews.net
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 07:19:33 UTC
    Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 08:19:32 +0100

    Perhaps you can match the number you have with the businesses you
    can read about here?

    https://www.yellowpages.com/johnson-city-tn/computer-stores

    Message-ID: <hphkj5Fkie0U3@mid.individual.net>
    From: Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
    Subject: Re: WOW! Snit was really hitting the gluebag this weekend !!
    Date: 12 Aug 2020 07:38:13 GMT
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    <9KMYG.136546$hs5.63426@fx05.ams1>

    Perhaps you can match the number you have with the businesses you can
    read about here?

    https://www.yellowpages.com/johnson-city-tn/computer-stores

    Not there.

    Message-ID: <XJQYG.264806$dTb.89649@fx41.ams1>
    From: David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
    X-Complaints-To: abuse@blocknews.net
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 11:52:23 UTC
    Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:52:23 +0100

    On 12/08/2020 08:38, Snit wrote:
    On Aug 12, 2020 at 12:19:32 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Perhaps you can match the number you have with the businesses you can
    read about here?

    https://www.yellowpages.com/johnson-city-tn/computer-stores

    Not there.

    OK. Thanks for looking.

    Please try here:- https://www.yellowpages.com/kingsport-tn/computer-stores

    Message-ID: <hpio33Fkie0U14@mid.individual.net>
    From: Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
    Subject: Re: WOW! Snit was really hitting the gluebag this weekend !!
    Date: 12 Aug 2020 17:44:03 GMT
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    On Aug 12, 2020 at 5:19:49 AM MST, "David_B" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
    wrote:

    OK. Thanks for looking.

    Please try here:- https://www.yellowpages.com/kingsport-tn/computer-stores

    121 results! Sorry there are so many to check.

    Not a big deal -- just five pages. Did a search for the last four
    digits... no matches.

    *** end share

    Now, here's the totally bullshit apology you finally got around to
    writing, because I continued to ride your ass about your fuckup quoted
    above:

    From: Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,talk.politics.guns
    Subject: Re: Ha! Ads be gone!
    Date: 27 Aug 2020 16:00:24 GMT
    Organization: Sourthern Nevada Institute of Technology
    Message-ID: <hqq3koFs3ekU9@mid.individual.net>
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    I did incorrectly say he had not asked me to "research" or whatever -- not considering such a quick look to really count. But from your perspective, I suppose, where doing a quick search on a list is not completely trivial, it counts. Sorry for my error on that.

    *** end

    These urls:

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html>
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html>

    Are accurate concerning Snit (Michael Glasser of Prescott Arizona -
    Prescott Computer Guy - Con artist - usenet lying troll) , as the aforementioned post contents *clearly all show*

    Yea, you know what's up here!

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