• LOR extravaganza

    From Flasherly@Flasherly@live.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sat Apr 17 01:01:37 2021
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    (Costs for HBO’s “Game of Thrones” and "Rome" are passe;- This is it.)

    -

    Amazon Prime Tops 200 Million Members, Jeff Bezos Says.

    Amazon’s upcoming “Lord of the Rings” series will cost approximately $465/US million to produce one season, Variety has confirmed. (Radio
    New Zealand reported that the series, which is currently filming in
    the country, will spend $464M/US..)

    $250 million cost for the rights from author J.R.R. Tolkien’s estate.
    [As adds] Minister for Economic Development and Tourism, told Radio
    New Zealand, “This is fantastic, it really is [...]”.

    The logline says that the series will take place thousands of years
    before the events of the “Lord of the Rings” and “The Hobbit” films
    and take fans back to an era in which great powers were forged,
    kingdoms rose to glory and fell to ruin and unlikely heroes were
    tested.

    It will also feature the greatest villain that ever flowed from
    Tolkien’s pen threatening to cover all the world in darkness.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/amazon-e2-80-99s-e2-80-98lord -of-the-ring-e2-80-99-series-to-cost-24465-million-for-one-season/ar-BB1fJlgs

    -

    And again, $250M for Tolken's estate and care-takers, perhaps The
    Silmarillion, perhaps thereof in creative inducement, although Token
    and his son's subsequent efforts, taken to hand from his father's
    earlier and prefatory writings, were not of an accord (posthumously
    published for redaction) or scope of an opus The Hobbit or LOR
    epically approach.

    I rather remember reading The Silmarillion, vaguely as fragmented,
    topical but not conjoint, apart from a enveloping versal style that no
    less charmingly issued from a man buried in the university catacombs
    unraveling lexicographical Pict.
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  • From Ed Stasiak@edstasiak1067@gmail.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sat Apr 17 16:47:40 2021
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    Flasherly

    (Costs for HBO’s “Game of Thrones” and "Rome" are passe;- This is it.)

    Amazon’s upcoming “Lord of the Rings” series will cost approximately $465/US million to produce one season, Variety has confirmed. (Radio
    New Zealand reported that the series, which is currently filming in
    the country, will spend $464M/US..)
    And like GoT, it’ll be shit and chock-full of “woke” progressive bullshit.
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  • From Flasherly@Flasherly@live.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sat Apr 17 22:18:02 2021
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    On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:47:40 -0700 (PDT), Ed Stasiak
    <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    And like GoT, it’ll be shit and chock-full of “woke” progressive bullshit.

    The storyline does sound off and perhaps is -- there were nine rings,
    the evil ruler rose from as the one ring's master above all the rest,
    whom existed before in another age and was defeated by men and elves.
    All of which I don't recall Tolkien well enough for ever having delved extensively into for other than what beyond would necessarily set the
    "middle age" stage.

    As it was, the estate sued PeterJackson (an amount of settlement, the
    estate won, was stipulated not to be disclosed). $250M from Amazon,
    straight up, centre and front again to the estate, might mean just
    that -- a clear passage for a buttload of fantastical meanderings with
    nothing else to do than pick them out.

    Or read the books. I did. There was nothing then but a Led Zepplin
    song and cartoon film LoR sometime before Jackson.
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Apr 18 15:01:33 2021
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    On 2021-04-17 23:47:40 +0000, Ed Stasiak said:
    Flasherly

    (Costs for HBO's "Game of Thrones" and "Rome" are passe This is it.
    Amazon's upcoming “Lord of the Rings” series will cost
    approximately $465/US million to produce one season, Variety has
    confirmed. (Radio New Zealand reported that the series, which is
    currently filming in the country, will spend $464M/US..)

    And like GoT, it'll be shit and chock-full of "woke" progressive bullshit.

    Unlike GoT it's highly unlikely to be over-sexed stupidity trying to
    lure in the pervert teen audience ... but it will be yet more New
    Zealand-made garbage with every "actor" (i.e. two-bit ex-soap "actors")
    the country has appearing in and ruining it with their attrocious
    "acting" and horrible accents.



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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Apr 18 04:03:27 2021
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    In message <l53n7g9hc4iu8u84gu9p552ksmfq6n6pur@4ax.com> Flasherly <Flasherly@live.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:47:40 -0700 (PDT), Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    And like GoT, it’ll be shit and chock-full of “woke” progressive bullshit.

    The storyline does sound off and perhaps is -- there were nine rings,
    the evil ruler rose from as the one ring's master above all the rest,

    Nope, this is quite wrong.

    I do not want to get into a discussion ab out the history of
    Middle-Earth, but that is not at all how the story went.

    Or read the books. I did. There was nothing then but a Led Zepplin
    song and cartoon film LoR sometime before Jackson.

    There was a lot more than that, but much has also been published after
    JRR Tolkien's death.

    A significant change in the estate came as a result of Christopher's
    declining health and then death about a year ago.

    I don't know who controls the estate now, but The Hobbit will be leaving copyright in a few years.

    --
    Mind if I kiss the monkey? <smooch> Ptttfft! Hairball!
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  • From Flasherly@Flasherly@live.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Apr 18 10:12:59 2021
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    On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 04:03:27 -0000 (UTC), Lewis
    <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

    Nope, this is quite wrong.

    I do not want to get into a discussion ab out the history of
    Middle-Earth, but that is not at all how the story went.

    I really couldn't either myself, clearly if I'm quoting Jackson's team
    of transcribers for additionally addled transmutations over what I'd
    so erroneously assumed a fundamental precept contingently to Nine
    Rings of Power (forged by an distinct entity and one perhaps less by
    races -- neither of men, elves nor dwarves).

    A year, only now is it really, since Christopher, if to think so
    unnaturally long, like Bilbo's spreading "too much butter over
    toast"?;- Tolkien's consolatory act given most directly Christopher,
    at the time while away and serving Britain in the second installment
    of the Great War.

    The Silmarillion did impress me, a lot, although if no less vaguely to recollect beyond any salient intent to overlap, if at all coincidence
    in matters of The Hobbit & LoR. The estate, at the time I'd
    encountered, likely from reading, a mention and personal impression,
    that various individuals, stewards and caretakers, of intimate claim
    most closely in regard to Tolkien, perhaps an immediate aspect of
    family;- the philologist to extend to of younger years already
    well-heeled in prosaic verisimilitude. A difficult artform if not
    lost altogether, regardless $250M booty deferentially in due placed
    upon the estate's doorstep, as Amazon has sued for what attempts least
    yet might portend.
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  • From Ed Stasiak@edstasiak1067@gmail.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun Apr 18 07:46:54 2021
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    Your Name
    Ed Stasiak

    And like GoT, it'll be shit and chock-full of "woke" progressive bullshit.

    Unlike GoT it's highly unlikely to be over-sexed stupidity trying to
    lure in the pervert teen audience ... but it will be yet more New Zealand-made garbage with every "actor" (i.e. two-bit ex-soap "actors")
    the country has appearing in and ruining it with their attrocious
    "acting" and horrible accents.
    Hollywood has gone completely over the cliff with political correctness,
    which means this LotR tv series will be woke trash just like GoT.
    It's the new official normal in Hollywood.
    For example, the GoT prequel that is coming out (which will also be shit) completely ignores GRRM's books and furthermore, the show will not have "violence towards women", as this offends the cellphone addicted social
    media zombies. https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-spinoff-house-dragon-no-violence-women/
    MAR 12, 2021
    Game of Thrones Spinoff Won't Have 'Graphic Violence Towards Women,' Says Star Dunno how they're going to have a tv show where the all the gals are good
    and wise and never lose?…
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 11:03:10 2021
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    In article <22d825f2-8f74-4514-bc0c-b5ec06418704n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    Flasherly

    (Costs for HBO's GAME OF THRONES and ROME are passe;- This is it.)

    Amazon’s upcoming LORD OF THE RINGS series will cost approximately $465/US million to produce one season, Variety has confirmed. (Radio
    New Zealand reported that the series, which is currently filming in
    the country, will spend $464M/US..)

    And like GoT, it'll be shit and chock-full of "woke" progressive
    bullshit.

    Because if there was a society known for its wokeness, it was the
    medieval Europe upon which Middle Earth is modeled.
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  • From BTR1701@atropos@mac.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 11:05:36 2021
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    In article <7c3315ea-3deb-49a7-bcc7-49c0770a8a87n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hollywood has gone completely over the cliff with political correctness, which means this LotR tv series will be woke trash just like GoT.

    It's the new official normal in Hollywood.

    For example, the GoT prequel that is coming out (which will also be shit) completely ignores GRRM's books and furthermore, the show will not have "violence towards women", as this offends the cellphone addicted social
    media zombies.

    https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-spinoff-house-dragon-no-violence-women/ MAR 12, 2021

    Game of Thrones Spinoff Won't Have 'Graphic Violence Towards Women,'
    Says Star

    Dunno how they're going to have a tv show where the all the gals are good
    and wise and never lose?

    Not even "never lose". No one will ever fight them to begin with,
    because even if they lost to the women, they'd still be fighting them
    and that would be violence against women.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 14:37:44 2021
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    On 2021-05-01 2:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <22d825f2-8f74-4514-bc0c-b5ec06418704n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    Flasherly

    (Costs for HBO's GAME OF THRONES and ROME are passe;- This is it.)

    Amazon’s upcoming LORD OF THE RINGS series will cost approximately
    $465/US million to produce one season, Variety has confirmed. (Radio
    New Zealand reported that the series, which is currently filming in
    the country, will spend $464M/US..)

    And like GoT, it'll be shit and chock-full of "woke" progressive
    bullshit.

    Because if there was a society known for its wokeness, it was the
    medieval Europe upon which Middle Earth is modeled.

    It would be interesting to resurrect Tolkien and see his reaction to
    this creation, once it is finished. Mind you, making him watch what they have done to his work would be an awfully cruel thing to do to the man....
    --
    Rhino
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 14:57:26 2021
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    On 2021-05-01 2:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <7c3315ea-3deb-49a7-bcc7-49c0770a8a87n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hollywood has gone completely over the cliff with political correctness,
    which means this LotR tv series will be woke trash just like GoT.

    It's the new official normal in Hollywood.

    For example, the GoT prequel that is coming out (which will also be shit)
    completely ignores GRRM's books and furthermore, the show will not have
    "violence towards women", as this offends the cellphone addicted social
    media zombies.

    https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-spinoff-house-dragon-no-violence-women/ >> MAR 12, 2021

    Game of Thrones Spinoff Won't Have 'Graphic Violence Towards Women,'
    Says Star

    Dunno how they're going to have a tv show where the all the gals are good
    and wise and never lose?

    Not even "never lose". No one will ever fight them to begin with,
    because even if they lost to the women, they'd still be fighting them
    and that would be violence against women.

    I just finished the second season of For All Mankind and was very
    surprised when one of women in the series actually made a mistake and a
    deadly one to boot. Of course it was a minor character, the female
    marine on the moon, and it was just a misunderstanding - she thought the Soviet cosmonauts were reaching for weapons when they were only trying
    to find their translation cards - so it really wasn't very bad, right?
    Still, it was a rather remarkable moment for a show where the women are
    all brilliant and always save the day. I can't recall any other scene
    where a woman actually did something wrong or blatantly stupid in this
    series.

    Mind you, I counted 4 instances of people not following orders because
    they "knew better" than their bosses in the final episode of the second
    season and three of those were perpetrated by women.
    - Sally Ride refused to obey Ed Baldwin and target the Soviet Buron with
    their missiles and even pulled a gun on him in her defiance
    - Danni Poole refused to obey NASA and return to Earth, choosing to go
    ahead with the Apollo-Soyuz linkup
    - Ellen, the NASA Administrator, refused to obey orders from the
    President himself (!!) and let the linkup proceed
    - Ed Baldwin shot down the Sea Dragon rather than the Buron which was definitely contrary to his orders

    As far as I could see from the remaining scenes NONE of these people
    were even punished for their failure to follow orders and Ellen actually
    got an attaboy directly from Reagan despite disobeying his direct
    orders. I'm betting that in the real world - rather than this
    Grrrl-Power Universe - such behaviour would get people fired and very
    possibly imprisoned.

    I'm picturing an LOTR written much like For All Mankind is.

    --
    Rhino
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  • From anim8rfsk@anim8rfsk@cox.net to rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sat May 1 13:44:13 2021
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    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2021-05-01 2:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <7c3315ea-3deb-49a7-bcc7-49c0770a8a87n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hollywood has gone completely over the cliff with political correctness, >>> which means this LotR tv series will be woke trash just like GoT.

    It's the new official normal in Hollywood.

    For example, the GoT prequel that is coming out (which will also be shit) >>> completely ignores GRRM's books and furthermore, the show will not have
    "violence towards women", as this offends the cellphone addicted social
    media zombies.

    https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-spinoff-house-dragon-no-violence-women/ >>> MAR 12, 2021

    Game of Thrones Spinoff Won't Have 'Graphic Violence Towards Women,'
    Says Star

    Dunno how they're going to have a tv show where the all the gals are good >>> and wise and never lose?

    Not even "never lose". No one will ever fight them to begin with,
    because even if they lost to the women, they'd still be fighting them
    and that would be violence against women.

    I just finished the second season of For All Mankind and was very
    surprised when one of women in the series actually made a mistake and a deadly one to boot. Of course it was a minor character, the female
    marine on the moon, and it was just a misunderstanding - she thought the Soviet cosmonauts were reaching for weapons when they were only trying
    to find their translation cards - so it really wasn't very bad, right? Still, it was a rather remarkable moment for a show where the women are
    all brilliant and always save the day. I can't recall any other scene
    where a woman actually did something wrong or blatantly stupid in this series.

    Mind you, I counted 4 instances of people not following orders because
    they "knew better" than their bosses in the final episode of the second season and three of those were perpetrated by women.
    - Sally Ride refused to obey Ed Baldwin and target the Soviet Buron with their missiles and even pulled a gun on him in her defiance
    - Danni Poole refused to obey NASA and return to Earth, choosing to go
    ahead with the Apollo-Soyuz linkup
    - Ellen, the NASA Administrator, refused to obey orders from the
    President himself (!!) and let the linkup proceed
    - Ed Baldwin shot down the Sea Dragon rather than the Buron which was definitely contrary to his orders

    As far as I could see from the remaining scenes NONE of these people
    were even punished for their failure to follow orders and Ellen actually
    got an attaboy directly from Reagan despite disobeying his direct
    orders. I'm betting that in the real world - rather than this
    Grrrl-Power Universe - such behaviour would get people fired and very possibly imprisoned.

    I'm picturing an LOTR written much like For All Mankind is.


    Apparently this show is nothing like I thought it would be

    --
    “The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
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  • From Flasherly@Flasherly@live.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 17:42:22 2021
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    On Sat, 01 May 2021 11:03:10 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Because if there was a society known for its wokeness, it was the
    medieval Europe upon which Middle Earth is modeled.


    Maybe not so far different from imaginative sorts of plot-makers and storytellers. Anybody can write a crapfest with a handheld to flesh
    it out. Even before, SciFi's rightful cradle was from GI-Joe's trench
    novel concerning the foaming-mouthed, Atomic Radar X-Ray Mutant Zombie apocalypse. Applied science has stricken again.

    Did not Tolkien, instead of a trench, write the same thing, although
    from academia, the same things being only one distanced to his son,
    assigned within the very trenches, of WWI, and an impending SciFi
    Outbreak WWII to presage not longer after?

    The hinterland people, evidently, on the homefront need these blasts, periodically shot straight through the ears -- a Commissioner of
    Ceremonial Games of SciFi Terrorization, really, is need be elected
    and constituted. The evidence couldn't be clearer when Tolkien
    deviated from Tom Cruise, H.G. Wells, The Illustrated Rod Steiger, for
    the War of the Worlds.

    Who need care Robert E. Howard, who killed himself on his first date,
    because his momma loved him so much, when there's The Terminator
    instead. H.G. Wells some call the Last English Gentleman, besides
    writing a History of the World, he as well as conducted séances in
    dark parlor rooms, indulged by a certain Victorian class at the time.

    Tolkien is unlike anything else, which isn't to discount an appear to
    perhaps a visionary caliber of Star Wars or an Orwellian THX 1138.
    Medievalism must have started out somewhere, though, along pantheism
    and its heretical fodder for Christianity to purge, whereby the 7th.
    c. the West is enveloped by Visigoths, Ostrogoths and all manner, and
    a last residual of the East holds to tenuously to the Levant, as North
    Africa succumbs before ill-tempered advice, ere long before Islam
    arrives at Byzantium's gates. Yet feudalism, a shift of city-state
    provinces to tribal lords of different emphasis among territorial
    natures, is not quite a model nor entirely dismissible for one
    resisted, equivocal to Britain, parts of France or Germany. English
    urbanity is still accorded wider dispensation, than merely the decay
    of inner-cities, as medieval people bail to build their homes closer
    to independent motivations Christian churches exemplify in adjacency
    to city-wall fortifications. England being, as it were, elsewhere,
    where education neither is quite so suffered a similar fate, as
    Europe's abandonment of inner-cities. A broader sense for a lay of the
    land is at play. Perhaps in such a very building, Tolkien worked,
    which was originally a church benefactium for those able [to afford
    with means and adequacy the betters of course of aristocrats] to
    attempt the syllabus and scribe, as later was to defer by rectitude
    among an allowable discrepancy of preserves, medievalism, perhaps less
    directly the implication of the so-called Dark Ages, cursorily may
    lack to inculcate.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 20:24:57 2021
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    On 2021-05-01 5:42 PM, Flasherly wrote:
    On Sat, 01 May 2021 11:03:10 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Because if there was a society known for its wokeness, it was the
    medieval Europe upon which Middle Earth is modeled.


    Maybe not so far different from imaginative sorts of plot-makers and storytellers. Anybody can write a crapfest with a handheld to flesh
    it out. Even before, SciFi's rightful cradle was from GI-Joe's trench
    novel concerning the foaming-mouthed, Atomic Radar X-Ray Mutant Zombie apocalypse. Applied science has stricken again.

    Did not Tolkien, instead of a trench, write the same thing, although
    from academia, the same things being only one distanced to his son,
    assigned within the very trenches, of WWI, and an impending SciFi
    Outbreak WWII to presage not longer after?

    The hinterland people, evidently, on the homefront need these blasts, periodically shot straight through the ears -- a Commissioner of
    Ceremonial Games of SciFi Terrorization, really, is need be elected
    and constituted. The evidence couldn't be clearer when Tolkien
    deviated from Tom Cruise, H.G. Wells, The Illustrated Rod Steiger, for
    the War of the Worlds.

    Who need care Robert E. Howard, who killed himself on his first date,
    because his momma loved him so much, when there's The Terminator
    instead. H.G. Wells some call the Last English Gentleman, besides
    writing a History of the World, he as well as conducted séances in> dark parlor rooms, indulged by a certain Victorian class at the time.

    Wells was also a committed Fabian Socialist who once interviewed Stalin himself (in Moscow) and commented that Stalin wasn't radical enough on
    some matters. Seriously. I read the article Wells wrote about it.
    Tolkien is unlike anything else, which isn't to discount an appear to
    perhaps a visionary caliber of Star Wars or an Orwellian THX 1138. Medievalism must have started out somewhere, though, along pantheism
    and its heretical fodder for Christianity to purge, whereby the 7th.
    c. the West is enveloped by Visigoths, Ostrogoths and all manner, and
    a last residual of the East holds to tenuously to the Levant, as North
    Africa succumbs before ill-tempered advice, ere long before Islam
    arrives at Byzantium's gates. Yet feudalism, a shift of city-state
    provinces to tribal lords of different emphasis among territorial
    natures, is not quite a model nor entirely dismissible for one
    resisted, equivocal to Britain, parts of France or Germany. English
    urbanity is still accorded wider dispensation, than merely the decay
    of inner-cities, as medieval people bail to build their homes closer
    to independent motivations Christian churches exemplify in adjacency
    to city-wall fortifications. England being, as it were, elsewhere,
    where education neither is quite so suffered a similar fate, as
    Europe's abandonment of inner-cities. A broader sense for a lay of the
    land is at play. Perhaps in such a very building, Tolkien worked,
    which was originally a church benefactium for those able [to afford
    with means and adequacy the betters of course of aristocrats] to
    attempt the syllabus and scribe, as later was to defer by rectitude
    among an allowable discrepancy of preserves, medievalism, perhaps less directly the implication of the so-called Dark Ages, cursorily may
    lack to inculcate.

    --
    Rhino
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  • From Flasherly@Flasherly@live.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 22:13:42 2021
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    On Sat, 1 May 2021 20:24:57 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Wells was also a committed Fabian Socialist who once interviewed Stalin >himself (in Moscow) and commented that Stalin wasn't radical enough on
    some matters. Seriously. I read the article Wells wrote about it.

    So was Orwell. From his journals is evidence Marxism wasn't always
    communism. People of course were variously interested, evidently and
    despite Engels, mathematically speaking, however long it took to
    establish the guy was something of a fruitloop. Although there's not
    enough money, a handful of people all can exclusively clutch, for
    economic theorists who certainly are not going censor and drop Marx
    from their studies.
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  • From Rhino@no_offline_contact@example.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sat May 1 23:33:50 2021
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    On 2021-05-01 10:13 PM, Flasherly wrote:
    On Sat, 1 May 2021 20:24:57 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Wells was also a committed Fabian Socialist who once interviewed Stalin
    himself (in Moscow) and commented that Stalin wasn't radical enough on
    some matters. Seriously. I read the article Wells wrote about it.

    So was Orwell. From his journals is evidence Marxism wasn't always communism. People of course were variously interested, evidently and
    despite Engels, mathematically speaking, however long it took to
    establish the guy was something of a fruitloop. Although there's not
    enough money, a handful of people all can exclusively clutch, for
    economic theorists who certainly are not going censor and drop Marx
    from their studies.

    We've had literally generations of proof now that Marxism is an almost unmitigated disaster, first and foremost to the people it purports to
    champion. Those self-styled intellectuals who continue to propose it, particularly in the relatively few countries that have never tried it,
    are utterly appalling.

    While Orwell claimed to be a socialist - for some definition of
    socialism - to the end of his days, his brilliant skewering of PRECISELY
    what was wrong with Marxism in both Animal Farm and 1984 was informed by
    his own experiences in the Spanish Civil War where he saw firsthand what Stalin's goons did to socialists that weren't sufficiently Stalinist in
    their enthusiasms, namely kill them. Stalin also persuaded the socialist Spanish government to let him hang on to their substantial gold reserves
    "for safekeeping". That gold was never given back.

    --
    Rhino
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  • From Flasherly@Flasherly@live.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sun May 2 00:32:47 2021
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.movies.current-films

    On Sat, 1 May 2021 23:33:50 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    We've had literally generations of proof now that Marxism is an almost >unmitigated disaster, first and foremost to the people it purports to >champion. Those self-styled intellectuals who continue to propose it, >particularly in the relatively few countries that have never tried it,
    are utterly appalling.

    While Orwell claimed to be a socialist - for some definition of
    socialism - to the end of his days, his brilliant skewering of PRECISELY
    what was wrong with Marxism in both Animal Farm and 1984 was informed by
    his own experiences in the Spanish Civil War where he saw firsthand what >Stalin's goons did to socialists that weren't sufficiently Stalinist in >their enthusiasms, namely kill them. Stalin also persuaded the socialist >Spanish government to let him hang on to their substantial gold reserves >"for safekeeping". That gold was never given back.

    And, to a point, Volgograd (Stalingrad) Industrial Pedagogical
    Institute, self-styled or political elitists, neither would be quite
    so able deterministically to qualify Marxist dogma at any ideal. I'll
    never forget the first time my cherry was burst upon finding someone subsequently so engaging as the Count Lev Nikolayevitch Tolstoy. It
    was during a little White House do, where Nancy Reagan, upon
    inspecting the guest list of emissaries decried -- 'Oh, dear me, let
    us Not Have that dreadfully dreary man Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn seated
    at the table.'

    I'd encountered Orwell's leftist journals, consumption he evidently
    suffered throughout his life, (since India), belatedly seeking
    treatment while freelancing in some capacity within the scullery of
    frenzied activities catering to a 5-star Parisian hotel;- if then the
    better known renown of life for a portrait of underground denizens,
    (succinctly enlarged from earlier Émile Zola and Germinal), among
    British coal miners (Wigan Pier). Yet, sympathetically, needlessly unmentionable so wherein to bear upon a quality certainly, however
    sustainable, permissibly to harrow and taunt his fellow man over what
    might they appear from whom they are to presume to do so.
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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.tv on Sun May 2 12:09:12 2021
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.movies.current-films

    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:
    Flasherly

    Amazon’s upcoming LORD OF THE RINGS series will cost approximately
    $465/US million to produce one season, Variety has confirmed. (Radio
    New Zealand reported that the series, which is currently filming in
    the country, will spend $464M/US..)

    And like GoT, it'll be shit and chock-full of "woke" progressive
    bullshit.

    Because if there was a society known for its wokeness, it was the
    medieval Europe upon which Middle Earth is modeled.

    I lost interest when they announced they were going to have "Elves of Colour"...

    --
    Trump won.

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  • From Ed Stasiak@edstasiak1067@gmail.com to rec.arts.movies.current-films on Sun May 2 16:23:17 2021
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.movies.current-films

    Ubiquitous
    BTR1701

    Because if there was a society known for its wokeness, it was the medieval Europe upon which Middle Earth is modeled.

    I lost interest when they announced they were going to have "Elves of Colour"...
    Judging from the pictures of the cast, most of the tv show will apparently
    take place in Far Harad…
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